First game to be banned in a decade

[Olly]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/6767623.stm

Anyone thinks that computer games makes an 18 year old + murder people has been sniffing glue, tbh.

If it wasn't a computer game as "inspiration", it would have been a book, or movie, or person. Psychos find the inspiration- it doesn't find them.

[inx|Aaron]

It is a bit of a joke really.

Shame the game is crap though.

[Cessle]

the nanny state strikes again, it takes more than just a video game to make somone kill, i ben playing 18+ games sinse i was like 7 or 8 and i aint a vilonant person

[Snoopy]

what i don't get is that, a 14 year old boy was killed over it but how would they know that it was the game unless he was playing it, which and as he was 14, he shouldn't of been playing with it. and MP Keith Vaz is a t***.

[Matt]

TBH, that killing wasn't to do with the video game anyway. And as Snoopy says why was he playing it if he was 14 and the age limit it 18??

[Wise Ol' JForce]

"in Manhunt 2, players can saw their enemies’ skulls in half; mutilate them with an axe; castrate them with a pair of pliers; and kill them by bashing their heads into an electrical box, where it is blown apart by a power surge. On Wii, players will not merely punch buttons or wield a joystick, but will actually act out this violence..." "...One review describes using a saw blade to 'cut upward into a foe's groin and buttocks, motioning forward and backward with the Wii remote as you go'." - The Register

That is not game material: that is brutal lacivious killing simulation, and entirely unnecessary. I have no problem with killing in games, but this seems to delight in torture and the causing of pain which I abhor, even in simulation.


I am delighted with this ban. It should send out a strong message, and hopefully hurt their wallets. Badly. I would write an INX article on it, but I don't think that that would accurately reflect the view of the INX community (and someone might read it thinking that it did).

[Case]

"in Manhunt 2, players can saw their enemies’ skulls in half; mutilate them with an axe; castrate them with a pair of pliers; and kill them by bashing their heads into an electrical box, where it is blown apart by a power surge. On Wii, players will not merely punch buttons or wield a joystick, but will actually act out this violence..." "...One review describes using a saw blade to 'cut upward into a foe's groin and buttocks, motioning forward and backward with the Wii remote as you go'." - The Register

That is not game material: that is brutal lacivious killing simulation, and entirely unnecessary. I have no problem with killing in games, but this seems to delight in torture and the causing of pain which I abhor, even in simulation.


I am delighted with this ban. It should send out a strong message, and hopefully hurt their wallets. Badly.

Wait what?

[Wise Ol' JForce]

I'm happy to blast apart creatures and humans, especially if there's an intellectual or skill based element to the game, but I hate torture more than killing. I'm happy to simulate killing, but to simulate realistic and gruesome torture and suffering I don't think is right.

I'm having difficulty explaining this: it's the idea of the torture that I hate most. I realise that it's just fake and just pixels getting hurt, but it's pixels in the image of a human. I know where my boundaries on violence in games are, even if I can't explain them.

[Wise Ol' JForce]

I think that the UK is generally good on the issue of censoring computer games: the US raising the content rating of GTA was silly, Jack Thompson is a ridiculous man, but the UK's rating board has never yet ****ed me off. I wouldn't want a film where similar material was there, and games essentially make you do it, and especially on the Wii which blurs the reality/fantasy line considerably.

Frankly I'm staggered that Nintendo is prepared to sh.it on its family oriented rep like this.

Also, I feel that you have to set the boundaries somewhere (otherwise our shelves will be flooded with all sorts of shi.te) and Rockstar have been trying to break those boundaries ever since they started with the original Manhunt, a game ruined by too much needless violence.

[If anyone feels that this should be moved to the VIP lounge so as not to give the wrong impression of INX I don't mind.]

[Case]

I supose this is where this faux snuff they are showing in the cinema leads us too. all this hostel crap. Everything is just trying to one up the last shock game, what happend to shot involving the letters IDDQD or IDKFA not this fillet a man's penis in hd, with your motion sensative controler.

you too can be harold shipman in MEDICAL MONSTER MAN MADNESS

[Wise Ol' JForce]

The whole torture simulation with a motion sensitive controller is just awful frankly. Horrid horrid concept.

[Olly]

"in Manhunt 2, players can saw their enemies’ skulls in half; mutilate them with an axe; castrate them with a pair of pliers; and kill them by bashing their heads into an electrical box, where it is blown apart by a power surge. On Wii, players will not merely punch buttons or wield a joystick, but will actually act out this violence..." "...One review describes using a saw blade to 'cut upward into a foe's groin and buttocks, motioning forward and backward with the Wii remote as you go'." - The Register

That is not game material: that is brutal lacivious killing simulation, and entirely unnecessary. I have no problem with killing in games, but this seems to delight in torture and the causing of pain which I abhor, even in simulation.


I am delighted with this ban. It should send out a strong message, and hopefully hurt their wallets. Badly. I would write an INX article on it, but I don't think that that would accurately reflect the view of the INX community (and someone might read it thinking that it did).

Quoting another poster, but Case, hostel is brilliant. This stuff really goes on. What really goes on should be available to see for mature adults. To show them and make them aware JUST what a sick society we live in, with sick individuals. Then maybe they'll stop sending rapists to prison for three years, and actually clue up that genuinely evil people need locking up and throwing away the key. Some people you CANNOT rehabilitate back into society. I digress

JForce, it's all about opinions! I don't neccessarily agree with all that you say, but by all means write a blog post from your perspective. Quote from forum members, myself if you want and tell us why we're wrong!

I'll glady reply and we can touché as it were!

While gratuitous violence they can ban, mass debating they will not!

[SuGarFr33]

Agree with you Jforce, totally unneeded violence

[Case]

Quoting another poster, but Case, hostel is brilliant. This stuff really goes on. What really goes on should be available to see for mature adults. To show them and make them aware JUST what a sick society we live in, with sick individuals. Then maybe they'll stop sending rapists to prison for three years, and actually clue up that genuinely evil people need locking up and throwing away the key. Some people you CANNOT rehabilitate back into society. I digress

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Hostel went from semi arthouse inspired 'people kill people for money' into hostel 2 which is comericalised faux snuff

also, the day they clue up will be the day the world ends

[Wise Ol' JForce]

Frankly I'm staggered that Nintendo is prepared to sh.it on its family oriented rep like this.


Both Sony and Nintendo have confirmed that they will not authorise the release of controversial video game Manhunt 2 on their games consoles - the PS2, PSP and the Wii - in the US.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/06/22/sony_nintendo_manhunt_2/


In a statement, the censor's office said: "IFCO recognises that in certain films, DVDs and video games, strong graphic violence may be a justifiable element within the overall context of the work. However, in the case of Manhunt 2, IFCO believes that there is no such context, and the level of gross, unrelenting and gratuitous violence is unacceptable.

[Olly]

It' supposedly out in the US, July 2nd.

[johnnyx]

When Kim Tate killed her husband in Emerdale, Claire King (the actress) received over 150 hate mails accusing her of being a murderous bitch! Ergo, there are members of the public who struggle to separate fact from fiction and I want protecting from them.

[Olly]

Blog added for this

http://www.inx-gaming.co.uk/gaming-blog/uncategorized/taking-the-moral-high-ground-walkthrough-faq-and-cheat-codes/

[Olly]

When Kim Tate killed her husband in Emerdale, Claire King (the actress) received over 150 hate mails accusing her of being a murderous bitch! Ergo, there are members of the public who struggle to separate fact from fiction and I want protecting from them.

Unfortunately John, the only effective way to do this is either buy your own island, or never leave the house.

[Wise Ol' JForce]

Sure. My objection to it isn't that people may start imitating it (although if you raise people on it and don't teach them that it's wrong then doubtless their reality will be skewed), my objection is that it is barbaric and has no place in entertainment.

Please publicly criticise my blog post!

[Case]

Unfortunately John, the only effective way to do this is either buy your own island, or never leave the house.

The house is feeble protection from the general public. If you decide to take the house method my I sugest complimenting it with firearms.

Sadly there will never be a perfect ballence between censorship and freedom of speech that protects some people from raw human stupidity and allows full artistic expression.